From lojban@solipsys.co.uk Fri Aug 13 14:00:10 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban@solipsys.co.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63914 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2004 21:00:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2004 21:00:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com) (66.218.66.87) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2004 21:00:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.168] by n30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Aug 2004 20:58:49 -0000 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 20:58:46 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20040813181943.GT30673@chain.digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1110 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 66.218.66.87 From: "riderofgiraffes" X-Originating-IP: 194.153.10.165 Subject: Re: Summer School lojban X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=195115829 X-Yahoo-Profile: riderofgiraffes X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22861 >>>>>> There are cards ... >>>>>> Does every red card have a square on the other side? >>>> The question is, do members of this group get it right? >> If I ask it in lojban then that does not only test whether >> someone's thinking has changed as a result of knowing lojban. > > I have no idea why you would want to test this. The SWH is about > people's thoughts changing because of the language they are > communicating in, is it not? This is clearly nothing like a proper, scientific test, we will all, no doubt, agree. However, the SWH in its stronger form(s), as I understand it, implies that learning a new language will affect the way you think. I would be interested to see if people who have learned lojban and use lojban are more likely to get this question right. Clearly this "test" won't actually answer that question, but I thought people here might like the logical puzzle, that they might be interested in the question, and perhaps they might be interested in the subject in general. Clearly I was wrong, so I'll go away and not bother again.