From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Aug 18 16:01:19 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69987 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2004 23:01:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Aug 2004 23:01:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2004 23:01:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BxZQi-0001JJ-DN for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:01:16 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BxZPs-0001IZ-TD; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:00:24 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:00:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BxZPg-0001IJ-Bw for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:00:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:00:12 -0700 Message-ID: <20040818230012.GZ13226@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <200408181120.49430.phma@phma.hn.org> <20040818221529.GK19287@skunk.reutershealth.com> <20040818222022.GV13226@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <200408181857.51329.phma@phma.hn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200408181857.51329.phma@phma.hn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-archive-position: 8495 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: use of {co'e} and other cmavo in lujvo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22914 On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 06:57:50PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday 18 August 2004 18:20, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > The historical (and still current, perhaps) Loglan lujvo was the > > > equivalent of "nanmu gasnu", much derided by Lojban Central as > > > sexist (easily fixed) and ill thought out (not so easily fixed). > > > I think we need to understand the semantics of this English verb > > > "man" and find a true equivalent, rather than blindly calquing it. > > > > sazri. li'a sai. > > Not necessarily. If the post has a steering wheel or some such > control, then {sazri} is appropriate, but if it's a lookout post, then > no. I disagree. I suppose if that bothers you you could use pilno, though. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"