From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Aug 18 15:21:15 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12036 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2004 22:21:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Aug 2004 22:21:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2004 22:21:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BxYnw-0000Sw-5a for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:21:12 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BxYnJ-0000S0-QH; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:20:33 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BxYn8-0000Rp-B1 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:20:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 15:20:22 -0700 Message-ID: <20040818222022.GV13226@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <200408181120.49430.phma@phma.hn.org> <20040818221529.GK19287@skunk.reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040818221529.GK19287@skunk.reutershealth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-archive-position: 8492 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: use of {co'e} and other cmavo in lujvo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22911 On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 06:15:29PM -0400, John Cowan wrote: > Pierre Abbat scripsit: > > > equivalent of denominal verbs, e.g. {ko remco'e le tcana} "man the > > station", > > The historical (and still current, perhaps) Loglan lujvo was the > equivalent of "nanmu gasnu", much derided by Lojban Central as sexist > (easily fixed) and ill thought out (not so easily fixed). I think we > need to understand the semantics of this English verb "man" and find a > true equivalent, rather than blindly calquing it. sazri. li'a sai. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"