From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Aug 13 14:15:38 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12899 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2004 21:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2004 21:15:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2004 21:15:36 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BvjOg-00051W-Qd for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:15:34 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BvjNt-00050h-Dr; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:14:45 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.189.121.177] (helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BvjNh-00050D-1Y for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 14:14:33 -0700 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7B0824B07; Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:14:00 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200408131714.00383.phma@phma.hn.org> X-archive-position: 8443 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.hn.org Subject: [lojban] bifce X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22863 {bifce} is glossed as "bee/wasp/hornet". "Bee" means any member of the superfamily Apoidea, "ant" means any member of the family Formicidae in the superfamily Vespoidea, and "wasp" means any member of Apocrita that isn't a bee or an ant (including the hornets, which are in Vespoidea). (I am ignoring spelling bees, WASPs, and any other senses that aren't Hymenoptera.) What words can we use to distinguish bees and any other bifce that might need distinguishing? phma -- li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa