From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Aug 18 02:29:10 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 48699 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2004 09:29:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Aug 2004 09:29:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Aug 2004 09:29:10 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BxMhW-0004zc-5g for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:25:46 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BxMgg-0004ya-4H; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:24:54 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fysh.org ([83.170.75.51] helo=bowl.fysh.org ident=mail) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1BxMgP-0004yH-H3 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 02:24:38 -0700 Received: from zefram by bowl.fysh.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BxMgM-0000iW-00 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:24:34 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:24:34 +0100 Message-ID: <20040818092434.GA2215@fysh.org> References: <200408180010.26849.phma@phma.hn.org> <20040818090938.GC24841@fysh.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040818090938.GC24841@fysh.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-archive-position: 8483 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: zefram@fysh.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Zefram From: Zefram Reply-To: zefram@fysh.org Subject: [lojban] Re: tents X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22902 I wrote: >bukmra tent; shelter >bu'uzda tent; dwelling >bukydi'u tent; building Incidentally, I happened to be talking about tents with a friend yesterday, and discovered an interesting difference in perspective. When inside a tent, he sees himself as being indoors (albeit in a flimsy building), whereas I see myself as being outdoors (albeit sheltered). In Lojbanic terms, I think he sees a tent primarily as bukydu'u, whereas I see it primarily as bukmra. -zefram