From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Aug 28 05:26:18 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 81622 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2004 12:26:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Aug 2004 12:26:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Aug 2004 12:26:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1C12EZ-0003eQ-By for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 05:23:03 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C12Dw-0003dh-NK; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 05:22:24 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 Aug 2004 05:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fysh.org ([83.170.75.51] helo=bowl.fysh.org ident=mail) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1C12Dj-0003dV-1l for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 05:22:11 -0700 Received: from zefram by bowl.fysh.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1C12Dj-0002I7-00 for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:22:11 +0100 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 13:22:11 +0100 Message-ID: <20040828122211.GA3922@fysh.org> References: <200408272104.18139.phma@phma.hn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200408272104.18139.phma@phma.hn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-archive-position: 8561 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: zefram@fysh.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Zefram From: Zefram Reply-To: zefram@fysh.org Subject: [lojban] Re: names of the elements X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22975 Pierre Abbat wrote: >When I wrote le dikni cartu be le selratni, for those element names that are >type-3 fu'ivla where the foreign part begins with a vowel, I more often than >not picked a consonant that occurs in the foreign part (e.g. jinmrtiterbi). >Nick prefers using 'x' as the consonant regardless of what the foreign part >is. What do the rest of you prefer? I think it's better to pick something that's euphonic in that location or something that is etymologically justified. Using a consonant that's also used later in the word seems a reasonable version of the former. Always using "x" is not. >It's at http://phma.hn.org/Language/selratni.html . Do you maintain the version at ? I think it's better that all Lojbanic thesaurus-like material be collected in one place, namely the jbovlaste wiki. Further comments: (0) lawrencium has the symbol "Lr", not "Lw". (1) you're a bit behind. Following rutherfordium are the following elements: * 105: dubnium (Db) * 106: seaborgium (Sg) * 107: bohrium (Bh) * 108: hassium (Hs) * 109: meitnerium (Mt) * 110: darmstadtium (Ds) * 111: roentgenium (Rg) (proposed) (The name "roentgenium" and symbol "Rg" for element 111 have been officially proposed and are now in a public comment period. .) (2) The layout of both periodic table pages suffers from the reliance on tables. I'm using Lynx, and a simple numerical list of elements would be really nice. I may have a go at rearranging the wiki page. -zefram