From xod@thestonecutters.net Wed Aug 11 15:48:36 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 35578 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2004 22:48:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Aug 2004 22:48:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Aug 2004 22:48:26 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1Bv1sg-0004sp-42 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:47:38 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bv1s3-0004ri-1S; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:46:59 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thestonecutters.net ([63.251.19.112] helo=chert.thestonecutters.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1Bv1rr-0004rU-LX for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:46:47 -0700 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (p78-77.acedsl.com [66.114.78.77]) by chert.thestonecutters.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62961148001 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:23:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <411AA1D5.6000109@thestonecutters.net> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:46:45 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.7.2 (Windows/20040707) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <200408080634.18420.phma@phma.hn.org> <200408111625.03899.phma@phma.hn.org> <20040811203139.GB30673@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <200408111659.13332.phma@phma.hn.org> <20040811210336.GF30673@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20040811223126.GL30673@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20040811223126.GL30673@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-archive-position: 8420 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xod@thestonecutters.net X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: xod Reply-To: xod@thestonecutters.net Subject: [lojban] Re: The Lojban Wikipedia is up X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=110189215 X-Yahoo-Profile: throwing_back_the_apple X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22840 Robin Lee Powell wrote: >I'm a lot less averse to metaphorical lujvo now that I've created a >whole bunch of them *complete* *with* *place* *structure*. Doing so >makes it obvious that Lojban words are more defined by place structure >than keyword, and that anything that has the place you want is The Right >Choice. > > I hear this often, touted as a profound observation, but what does it mean? That we should pay attention to all the keywords instead of just one? In the end, there is nothing but English keywords. Isn't it true that in many definitions, the "other" keywords are directly based on the primary one? >I still think ralcku is asinine, though. mutmi'i I mind a lot less than >I used to, although I think it's rarely the best choice for "software" >(too broad). > > Lujvo should focus primarily on use-function -- how it appears to the user -- as opposed to technical precision. A clue that points the way is thinking about the items which could act as functional replacements. -- Which of the two millionaire Yale Bonesmen do you support? If you believe in an aggressive foreign policy, vote for the one who avoided combat service. If you're against military adventurism, then vote for the man who is proud of his service in an imperialist war.