From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Mon Aug 09 12:55:23 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 72132 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2004 19:55:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2004 19:55:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Aug 2004 19:55:23 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.32) id 1BuGAF-0001qy-Tx for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:50:36 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BuG9R-0001q4-IN; Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:49:45 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from web41901.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.152]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.32) id 1BuG9H-0001pY-5E for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:49:35 -0700 Message-ID: <20040809194904.40082.qmail@web41901.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41901.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 09 Aug 2004 12:49:04 PDT Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 12:49:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20040809192333.GS1912@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 8388 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: how to say manifold X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 22810 --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > A fu'ivla might not be bad here, but I suspect that it wouldn't be hard > to build a lujvo if one built upon a from-scratch description of > topology mathematics in general. A mathematical surface is probably > "sefta tarmi". If we throw away the du'amoi places of tarmi, yes. With manifolds, you usually don't want the edges to be included. > Locally Euclidian is something like "xutla diklo". Every time I look at the definition of {diklo} I get confused. I can never quite figure out the relationship between x1, x2 and x3. Something is a locus on something else, but which one is the locus? "x1 is local to x2" would seem to say that x1 is a locus of x2. But then it says "x1 is confined to locus x2 within range x3" so now it seems x2 is a locus of x3, and x1 is something located there? So is it a Russian doll sort of structure x3(x2(x1)) ? {xutla} does seem perfectly fine for the mathematical sense of "smooth". mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com