From phma@ixazon.dynip.com Sun Oct 17 22:06:38 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.189.121.177] (helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CJPj1-0004wW-Sq for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:06:29 -0700 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 546E949DB; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 05:05:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Abbat Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: lujvo finti Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 01:05:52 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200409230816.58825.phma@phma.hn.org> <20041018043019.GA21519@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20041018043019.GA21519@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410180105.52935.phma@phma.hn.org> X-archive-position: 8737 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Monday 18 October 2004 00:30, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 08:16:58AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > ni'o xu lo'u la'o tok. toki pona .tok. le'u gendra? > > Why wouldn't it be? There's no pause in "toki". According to chapter 19, the delimiter has to be separated from the quoted text by pauses. It doesn't say that it has to be separated from the next Lojban word. The example of a quotation which is bad in writing is: mi djuno fi le valsi po'u zoi gy. gyrations .gy. This contains a null quotation followed by {rations. gy.}. If there weren't a quotation around, {gy rations} would require a pause, but apparently {gy} is considered a valid delimiter even though it is not followed by a pause. On the other hand, if the delimiter occurs not immediately preceded by a pause, it is not the terminating delimiter: {zoi zoi. borzoi .zoi} is valid. phma -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci