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Subject: [lojban] Re: "act so that" without ko?
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Mr Ekted wrote:
> 
> ko klama
> [act so that] you leave
> Leave!
> 
> What if I wanted to say something like:
> 
> [act so that] I leave
> Make me leave!
> 
> There's no place for ko in that selbri since "you" doesn't have a
> place. What do you do? Is there another syntax to specify a command?
> 

Perhaps you could make "you" the point of departure:

   mi klama fi ko

   Act so that I go with point-of-departure you.

or alternatively...

   mi cliva ko

   Act so that I leave you.

If there is no place that could logically be filled by "do" (e.g. you 
want to be made to go somewhere, but not away from the person), you 
could try a causal modal:

   mi klama mu'i le nu ko tarti

   Behave so as to motivate me to go.

Or with sumti-raising:

   mi klama mu'i tu'a ko


robin.tr

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