From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Oct 13 09:13:16 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 46293 invoked from network); 13 Oct 2004 16:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Oct 2004 16:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Oct 2004 16:13:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CHlkV-0001By-K6 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:13:11 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CHljb-0001AW-5y; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:12:15 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:12:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CHljO-0001A0-TJ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:12:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:12:02 -0700 Message-ID: <20041013161202.GF12568@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <87.1896a749.2e9dc6d4@wmconnect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87.1896a749.2e9dc6d4@wmconnect.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-archive-position: 8703 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: game; performer X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23108 On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 07:46:28PM -0400, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > While trying to find an answer to the recent 'sports scores' post, I > discovered that jbovlaste seems to have no way to express the noun > 'game'. le se kelci > It gave > ci'erkei< as "play a game", Ack. Please don't use angle brackets to quote things; it looks horrible in many mail readers. The convention here is curly braces for Lojban. Anyways, I don't see {ci'erkei} in jbovlaste at all. It seems to only be mentioned in the notes for kelci. I think it's a horrible word, and I can't be the only one or someone likely would have added it by now. :-) > I also wonder: How is >le tigni< different from >le tigypre tigni: > Definition: x1 performs x2 [performance] for/before audience x3 > > tigypre: > Definition: x1 is a perform-person with performance x2 with performance > audience x3. That second definition was auto-generated, by the way. > These two words seem to have identical meanings, except the lujvo > specifies that the performer is a person, while the gismu allows > animals, robots, whatever, as the performer. Is that right? That is exactly right, yes. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!"