From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Oct 31 14:22:05 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 40299 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2004 22:22:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Oct 2004 22:22:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Oct 2004 22:22:04 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1COO2F-0003VN-DX for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:18:51 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1COO1O-0003Ub-P5; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:17:59 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:17:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [216.189.121.177] (helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1COO1C-0003UJ-Uk for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:17:47 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 13FFC8315; Sun, 31 Oct 2004 22:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:17:06 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200410311616.21413.phma@phma.hn.org> <20041031212031.GI14527@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20041031213512.GA20855@thedave.chch.ox.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <20041031213512.GA20855@thedave.chch.ox.ac.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410311717.06767.phma@phma.hn.org> X-archive-position: 8900 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.hn.org Subject: [lojban] Re: as far as anyone knows X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23306 On Sunday 31 October 2004 16:35, Martin Bays wrote: > * Sunday, 2004-10-31 at 13:20 -0800 - Robin Lee Powell : > > I would use {du'o ro remna} or similar. > > Not in scope of that {na} you wouldn't! {du'o ro remna naku} then. But is that right? {du'o ro remna lo skalduna bangu naku ckini lo drata bangu} - "Everyone knows that Basque isn't related to another language." {du'o ro remna lo skalduna bangu na ckini lo drata bangu} - "Basque isn't known by everyone to be related to another language." {du'o lo remna lo skalduna bangu na ckini lo drata bangu} - "Basque isn't known by man to be related to another language." The last one sounds the closest to what I mean. phma -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci