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coi maten.

( Are long vowels not allowed in cmene? )
 
> Lojban is about precision if it's about anything. If
> someone advises you to
> use an imprecise construction when it would be just
> as easy to use a precise
> one (which AFAICT no-one has as such done), 
> explain
> calmly why you prefer the
> latter. jbopre are reasonable folk in general!
> 
> > So my rule of thumb from now on is "never use du
> even
> > when you want to assert identity, just in case".
> If I
> > mean "hey, it's my wife you're talking about!" but
> I
> > have to say "hey, you are talking about my wife"
> to
> > avoid asserting identity, I'm fine with that,
> however
> > imprecise it is.
> 
> Well that's a different case - the difference here
> is only one of emphasis.
> The two sentences are logically equivalent, and it
> is a matter of English
> idiom that the first emphasises the te tavla - so
> imho it would be malglico to
> copy the construction to Lojban.

No, it's not a matter of _English_ idiom. Most
languages have some means to mark
on the focus of a sentence -- the "new information",
in this case "my wife". English sometimes 
moves the focus to the beginning of the sentence and
turns the rest into a headless relative clause, "(who)
you're talking about". Spanish uses mainly intonation.


How do I mark the focus in lojban?
 
mu'o mi'e jordis.



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