From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Oct 17 22:09:34 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43729 invoked from network); 18 Oct 2004 05:09:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Oct 2004 05:09:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2004 05:09:33 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CJPlq-0004yH-Ec for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:09:22 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CJPjG-0004x7-Eb; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:06:42 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:06:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [216.189.121.177] (helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CJPj1-0004wW-Sq for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:06:29 -0700 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 546E949DB; Mon, 18 Oct 2004 05:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 01:05:52 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <200409230816.58825.phma@phma.hn.org> <20041018043019.GA21519@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20041018043019.GA21519@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200410180105.52935.phma@phma.hn.org> X-archive-position: 8737 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.hn.org Subject: [lojban] Re: lujvo finti X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23143 On Monday 18 October 2004 00:30, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2004 at 08:16:58AM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > ni'o xu lo'u la'o tok. toki pona .tok. le'u gendra? > > Why wouldn't it be? There's no pause in "toki". According to chapter 19, the delimiter has to be separated from the quoted text by pauses. It doesn't say that it has to be separated from the next Lojban word. The example of a quotation which is bad in writing is: mi djuno fi le valsi po'u zoi gy. gyrations .gy. This contains a null quotation followed by {rations. gy.}. If there weren't a quotation around, {gy rations} would require a pause, but apparently {gy} is considered a valid delimiter even though it is not followed by a pause. On the other hand, if the delimiter occurs not immediately preceded by a pause, it is not the terminating delimiter: {zoi zoi. borzoi .zoi} is valid. phma -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci