From MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Tue Oct 19 06:08:17 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42251 invoked from network); 19 Oct 2004 13:08:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Oct 2004 13:08:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Oct 2004 13:08:16 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CJtim-0003ZQ-0s for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:08:12 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CJthp-0003YS-RR; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:07:14 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from imo-m14.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CJthG-0003Xw-2y for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:06:38 -0700 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-m14.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id d.15a.414a3e29 (17228) for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:06:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15a.414a3e29.2ea66b38@wmconnect.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:06:00 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15a.414a3e29.2ea66b38_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 sub 12 X-archive-position: 8765 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Reply-To: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Subject: [lojban] word derivatives X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=137764184 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbaner X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23173 --part1_15a.414a3e29.2ea66b38_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2004-10-19 5:21:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > By the way: how does one derive causative forms, stative forms etc.? Are > they derived from the same root or do they have separate forms? I think the > first option would be more logical. > > Regards, > > > H.Bos > This is one area where Lojban is extremely weak. Lojban uses separate, unrelated forms (none derived from any other) for this kind of word. Fixing it (and I do think it merits fixing) would require a bunch of new lujvo, at the very least. It would make learning the vocab a lot easier though. stevo --part1_15a.414a3e29.2ea66b38_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 2004-10-19 5:21:1= 8 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes:


By the way: how does one = derive causative forms, stative forms etc.?  Are=20
they derived from the same root or do they have separate forms? I think= the=20
first option would be more logical.

Regards,


H.Bos


This is one area where Lojban is extremely weak.  Lojban uses sepa= rate, unrelated forms (none derived from any other) for this kind of word. =  Fixing it (and I do think it merits fixing) would require a bunch of = new lujvo, at the very least.  It would make learning the vocab a lot = easier though.  

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