From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Tue Nov 02 13:08:44 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41902.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CP5tK-00006a-Hn for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:08:36 -0800 Message-ID: <20041102210803.95296.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.49.74.2] by web41902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:08:03 PST Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:08:03 -0800 (PST) From: Jorge "Llambías" Subject: [lojban] Re: na scope. Again. To: lojban-list@lojban.org In-Reply-To: <20041102204330.GO2858@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 8912 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > Does {mi na nelci gi'e djica} mean: > > I do not enjoy, and I desire > > or > > I do not enjoy, and I do not desire > > ? It is definitely not the second one, but it might be: I do not both enjoy and desire The three meanings can be unambiguously expressed thusly: (1) mi ge na nelci gi djica (2) mi ge na nelci gi na djica (3) mi na ge nelci gi djica The parser would suggest that {mi na nelci gi djica} corresponds to (1), but sometimes we don't pay any heed to what the parser says in these matters, especially when {na} is involved. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com