From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Nov 21 23:34:23 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 40913 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2004 07:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Nov 2004 07:34:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2004 07:34:22 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CW8iK-0000qj-Gj for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:34:20 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CW8hQ-0000q5-Lh; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:33:24 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from a.mx.zettai.net ([207.58.154.6]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1CW8hC-0000pw-Pc for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 23:33:11 -0800 Received: (qmail 6080 invoked by uid 1012); 22 Nov 2004 07:33:08 -0000 Received: from grey.havens@online.fr by beta.zettai.net by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 (clamdscan: 0.70. spamassassin: 2.63. Clear:RC:1(81.56.52.12):. Processed in 0.199136 secs); 22 Nov 2004 07:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.42?) (mail@raphael.poss.name@81.56.52.12) by 0 with SMTP; 22 Nov 2004 07:33:08 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: <20041122041517.GK28493@chain.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20041120175240.GR28493@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20041120235959.81899.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> <20041122041517.GK28493@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-9-395071253" Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:33:59 +0100 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.0.2 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-archive-position: 9034 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: grey.havens@online.fr X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Poss?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_Poss?= Reply-To: grey.havens@online.fr Subject: [lojban] Re: Empasizing an entire structure in forethought? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23437 --Apple-Mail-9-395071253 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Le 22 nov. 04, =E0 05:15, Robin Lee Powell a =E9crit : > On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 03:59:59PM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: >> That fits with my understanding of {ji'asai}. I always use >> {ji'asai} for "even". > > I use {ji'a} for "also". You're saying that the {sai} alters the > meaning to make it an exceptional "also"? > " Most people broda. Even you. " What does this mean ? IMHO, it means "I say that most people broda. You=20 may believe that while most people broda, you do not broda. But I state=20 that you also do broda, be it counterintuitively." I believe that "even" is in most cases an "imprevisible also". --=20 Rapha=EBl --=20 Rapha=EBl Poss - raphael@pilotsystems.net Pilot Systems - 66, rue de Provence - 75009 Paris Tel : +33 1 44 53 05 55 - http://www.pilotsystems.net H=E9bergement Zope et Plone gratuit - http://www.objectis.org --Apple-Mail-9-395071253 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ceci_est_une_signature_=E9lectronique_PGP?= content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit [Attachment content not displayed.] --Apple-Mail-9-395071253--