From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Nov 18 16:23:01 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 36359 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2004 00:22:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Nov 2004 00:22:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2004 00:22:58 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CUwYD-0002N0-AZ for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:22:57 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CUwXI-0002Lg-Ft; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:22:00 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CUwX5-0002LS-Me for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:21:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:21:47 -0800 Message-ID: <20041119002147.GB8608@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-archive-position: 9012 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: First post :) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23415 On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 02:55:24PM -0000, hermite1729 wrote: > I'm a complete newbie whose only just started learning the > grammar, but it seems like such a fantastic language Welcome! > (I had no idea constructed languages this big existed), Thank you. We like to think Lojban is pretty well specified. > I thought I'd give advance warning of lots of annoying newbie-like > questions and ask if this was the right place for them. This is fine, but you may want to look at lojban-begginers as well. See http://lojban.org/resources/forums.html > It seems like quite a challenge to become fluent at it despite the > motivation of it being such a clear and well defined language, so > I must admit I'm curious how many people speak it Define "speak it". > I guess it's no coincidence that each of these have developed > their own extensive vocabularies and visual notations, but could > we demonstrate that lojban can communicate these more > effectively/efficiently than english? That sounds like a wonderful research project! When do you start? :-) > Go in particular is a game with a very large online community from > a great many countries, that is itself very much like a visual > language, and learning Go is often compared with learning a > language (an old name for Go is "shou tan" menaing "hand talk"). I'm actually writing a story in which a robot is about to explain Go to, umm, well, a one of these: http://www.orionsarm.com/clades/Sailors.html I'm not releasing the story yet, but I could post the explanation of Go here if people are interested. Once I'm done. > Can all the terms in these six areas be introduced into lojban > solely by the addition of more cmene and tanru or would it be much > more complicated? Mostly fu'ivla and lujvo, but yes. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/