From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Nov 21 20:16:19 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 84826 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2004 04:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Nov 2004 04:16:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Nov 2004 04:16:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CW5cf-0005k2-8v for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:16:17 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CW5bt-0005jf-In; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:15:29 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CW5bh-0005jV-Jo for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:15:17 -0800 Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 20:15:17 -0800 Message-ID: <20041122041517.GK28493@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20041120175240.GR28493@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20041120235959.81899.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041120235959.81899.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-archive-position: 9027 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Empasizing an entire structure in forethought? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23430 On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 03:59:59PM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 12:20:30PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > > On Saturday 20 November 2004 12:01, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > > On IRC, I had cause to translate "Do not be to quick to deal > > > > in death and judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all > > > > ends." > > > > > > Isn't "even" in this sense {ji'asai}? So you could say {lo > > > ji'asai mutce prije}. > > > > I don't think so. Arnt said (in IRC): > > > > You're implicitly creating a scale from the wisest to the > > dumbest, and saying that the wise cannot see all ends, so > > therefore everyone who is less wise can't see it either. > > That fits with my understanding of {ji'asai}. I always use > {ji'asai} for "even". I use {ji'a} for "also". You're saying that the {sai} alters the meaning to make it an exceptional "also"? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/