From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Nov 17 02:11:36 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26111 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2004 10:11:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 Nov 2004 10:11:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2004 10:11:32 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CUMlv-0000PD-2p for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:10:44 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CUMl2-0000OR-RR; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:09:48 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [216.189.121.177] (helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CUMkm-0000O7-FX for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:09:33 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2A35683B0; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 05:08:57 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200411170508.57675.phma@phma.hn.org> X-archive-position: 9003 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.hn.org Subject: [lojban] directions X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23406 Currently we have a set of gismu (berti, stuna, snanu, stici) and a set of tense markers (be'a, du'a, ne'u, vu'a) for denoting directions. The gismu can be made into lujvo, so we can say {le bloti cu bersicyberberti le gusydi'u} "the boat is north by east of the lighthouse", but how do we say "the boat is going east northeast"? Then there are directions in degrees, minutes, and seconds, such as {li nyxacipi'erexapi'enoxavy farna le fanmo le krasi be le nu caxmati xirma klama} (that one comes up in my CAD drawings because of roundoff error). How do we use one of those as a selbri or as a tense? phma -- li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci