From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Nov 03 15:48:39 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 25522 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2004 23:48:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 3 Nov 2004 23:48:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 3 Nov 2004 23:48:38 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CPUoi-000204-JY for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:45:28 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CPUo0-0001ML-Gi; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:44:44 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:44:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CPUnn-0001Fd-Hs for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 15:44:31 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 15:44:31 -0800 Message-ID: <20041103234431.GP25376@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040722i X-archive-position: 8941 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Bad Founders, no biscuit. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23347 In several large threads back in May when I was working just about every day on my PEG parser, we (me, xorxes, John, Bob, Nora, others) had discussions about the interactions of the various magic words. It would seem the founders had a severe mental lapse, because I just checked, and no-one remembered what Arnt just remembered in #lojban: There's a big list of these interactions in the Red Book. http://lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter19.html section 16. Bad forgetful Founders! No cookies for you! Anyways, that list isn't actually perfect (it doesn't handle, for example, "zo broda bu", and IMO it treats .y. as a word more than should be the case), but it's pretty good. If you assume that the following note is supposed to be there somewhere, it's nearly perfect: This list is in order of importance; any apparent contradictions are grammatical errors. That seems to have been the intent, but if the founders could speak to that I'd appreciate it. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/