From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Nov 02 13:34:45 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87974 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2004 21:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m16.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Nov 2004 21:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2004 21:34:44 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CP6Ic-0000Oz-Ga for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:34:42 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CP6Hr-0000OP-FX; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:33:55 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from [69.55.227.156] (helo=transfinite.hypercomplex.net ident=root) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1CP6He-0000O9-62 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:33:44 -0800 Received: from tx0.mail.ox.ac.uk (tx0.mail.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.163]) by transfinite.hypercomplex.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-6.4.swsoft) with ESMTP id iA2LYMMZ007330 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 13:34:23 -0800 Received: from scan0.mail.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.162] helo=localhost) by tx0.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1CP6HW-0002AW-1A for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 21:33:34 +0000 Received: from rx0.mail.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.1.161]) by localhost (scan0.mail.ox.ac.uk [129.67.1.162]) (amavisd-new, port 25) with ESMTP id 07871-07 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:33:34 +0000 (GMT) Received: from dh178.chch.ox.ac.uk ([129.67.120.178] helo=chch.ox.ac.uk) by rx0.mail.ox.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1CP6HW-0002AT-0V for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 21:33:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:33:31 +0000 Message-ID: <20041102213330.GA10350@thedave.chch.ox.ac.uk> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20041102204330.GO2858@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20041102210803.95296.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041102210803.95296.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> X-PGP-Key: http://mbays.freeshell.org/pubkey.asc X-PGP-KeyId: B5FB2CD6 X-cunselcu'a-valsi: kadno User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Greylist: Delayed for 47:58:10 by milter-greylist-1.4 (transfinite.hypercomplex.net [69.55.227.156]); Tue, 02 Nov 2004 13:34:23 -0800 (PST) X-archive-position: 8913 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jboste@zugzwang.port5.com X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Martin Bays From: Martin Bays Reply-To: jboste@zugzwang.port5.com Subject: [lojban] Re: na scope. Again. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23319 * Tuesday, 2004-11-02 at 13:08 -0800 - Jorge Llamb?as : > > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > > Does {mi na nelci gi'e djica} mean: > > The three meanings can be unambiguously expressed thusly: > > (1) mi ge na nelci gi djica > (2) mi ge na nelci gi na djica > (3) mi na ge nelci gi djica > > The parser would suggest that {mi na nelci gi djica} > corresponds to (1), but sometimes we don't pay any heed > to what the parser says in these matters, especially > when {na} is involved. {mi naku nelci gi'e djica} would still be (3) though, right? Martin