From cowan@ccil.org Sat Nov 20 22:29:24 2004 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 5948 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2004 06:29:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Nov 2004 06:29:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Nov 2004 06:29:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CVlDu-0005Jb-Ju for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:29:22 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CVlD8-0004cd-Nh; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:28:34 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mercury.ccil.org ([192.190.237.100]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1CVlCu-0004Sd-9F for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:28:20 -0800 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CVknD-0005fQ-U6 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:01:54 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 01:01:46 -0500 Message-ID: <20041121060137.GE5988@ccil.org> References: <20041120170505.GO28493@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041120170505.GO28493@chain.digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-archive-position: 9022 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: cowan@ccil.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: John Cowan Reply-To: cowan@ccil.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Archivist/Founders: {ri'a nai} vs. {se mau nai} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=212516 X-Yahoo-Profile: johnwcowan X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23425 Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > The "despite" thing seems to be a huge wart, and I'm wondering if > you guys had anything in mind for BAI+NAI *in general*. 1) Keywords are only meaningful to LogFlash. They aren't definitional. 2) I had nothing to do with assigning keywords or deciding which compound cmavo made it into the cmaste. 3) I said what I had to say, which isn't much, about BAI NAI at http://www.lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar/chapter15.html#s7 , though there are no examples there: it's just a badly designed way of saying "na". 4) I'd be happy to see BAI NAI, PU NAI, and FAhA NAI bite the big one. -- John Cowan www.ccil.org/~cowan www.reutershealth.com cowan@ccil.org "'My young friend, if you do not now, immediately and instantly, pull as hard as ever you can, it is my opinion that your acquaintance in the large-pattern leather ulster' (and by this he meant the Crocodile) 'will jerk you into yonder limpid stream before you can say Jack Robinson.'" --the Bi-Coloured-Python-Rock-Snake