From sentto-44114-23500-1102623511-lojban-in=lojban.org@returns.groups.yahoo.com Thu Dec 09 12:19:13 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:19:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from n8a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.42]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CcUkg-0002Li-VV for lojban-in@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:19:03 -0800 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by n8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2004 20:18:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.27] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Dec 2004 20:18:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 21679 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2004 20:18:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Dec 2004 20:18:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ratanakiri.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.37) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Dec 2004 20:18:29 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (mail [65.246.141.36]) by ratanakiri.reutershealth.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id iB9KISpP018986 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:18:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:18:27 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20041209201827.GN31601@skunk.reutershealth.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 65.246.141.37 From: John Cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 15:18:27 -0500 Subject: [lojban] John Cowan's view on reification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 9077 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list My view on Lojban's view of reification: Everything that a sumti refers to, not within the scope of a negation, is reified. That includes abstract le nu/lo nu things, le'e things, lo'e things, and the works. You may perhaps find an exception to this general principle, but I can probably explain it away. Ya happy now, rlpowell? -- "We are lost, lost. No name, no business, no Precious, nothing. Only empty. Only hungry: yes, we are hungry. A few little fishes, nassty bony little fishes, for a poor creature, and they say death. So wise they are; so just, so very just." --Gollum jcowan@reutershealth.com www.ccil.org/~cowan ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $4.98 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Q7_YsB/neXJAA/yQLSAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/