Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:37:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from n15a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.32]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cg0Jh-000217-Sj for lojban-in@lojban.org; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:37:42 -0800 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by n15.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2004 12:37:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.96] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Dec 2004 12:37:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: xah@xahlee.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 10834 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2004 12:37:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Dec 2004 12:37:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xahlee.org) (206.130.99.40) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2004 12:37:08 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (c-24-6-100-103.client.comcast.net [24.6.100.103]) (authenticated) by xahlee.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iBJCb4b24511; Sun, 19 Dec 2004 05:37:09 -0700 In-Reply-To: <41C33DCE.7030707@gulik.co.nz> References: <3F03F6A0-4D1B-11D9-9DF5-000A95C58224@xahlee.org> <20041213165845.GD16136@thirdchimp.com> <41C33DCE.7030707@gulik.co.nz> Message-Id: Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com To: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 206.130.99.40 From: xah lee X-Yahoo-Profile: p0lyglut MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:37:10 -0800 Subject: [lojban] Re: lojban a word a day Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 9100 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xah@xahlee.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 3746 Lines: 114 thanks for the link. I forgot. what i really like for the a-word-a-day is for it to contain daily snippets of common, day-to-day basic words or phrases, or tiny snippets of lojban grammar. for example, good morning, how are you, i'm hungry, where did she go, how much..., anything that one'd find in just about every foreign language guides for travel, where examples are based on human communication needs, instead of some logical structural didactical efficacies or generations. Lojban's participants tend to be computer or language nerds in one way or another, and existing lojban materials are all like that, plus rampant spurious jargons and gratuitous chalking up to philosophy (usually non-professionally too), or some inane quotations about poetry or ludicrous "Chrestomathy" or some translations of big works. (and with respect to this, a good pure logical and mimimalistic exposition of lojban does not exist neither, the closest being "What Is Lojban?" Edited by Nick Nicholas, John Cowan (http://lojban.org/publications/level0.html). The Lojban Reference (http://lojban.org/publications/reference_grammar.html) is turgid.) tiny snippet of lojban grammar can be things like how to say time, past/present/future pu/ca/ba, the general placeholder ma xu mo, tanru grouping cmavo, the short intro of the attitudinal issue, general ordinal... or i think covering cmavo words would be the same. Learning lojban is a large task, and it would be nice if we can just learn or review a small snippet daily. I meant to do this by quoting a small selected paragraph from the references, but just haven't got around it. (i started to do the utterly needed sound recordings too but currently too busy.) As to adding example sentences along with word definition, i'm just witless for the task. (i don't know enough lojban to be able to give examples.) many here know a lot more lojban than I. If you guys find this perspective interesting, i hope you guys will join, and expand the lojban literature. Xah xah@xahlee.org http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/more.html --------------------------- On Dec 17, 2004, at 12:13 PM, Michael van der Gulik wrote: ...which is here - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban-valsi/ Mikevdg xah lee wrote: > I've made some changes to the a-word-a-day yahoo group. Please invite > people to join. Suggestions are welcome. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > This is lojban a-word-a-day mailing list. Each day, a lojban word will > be sent out to you. The purpose of this mailing list is for learning > lojban words. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban If you don't > know what lojban is.) > > Everyone is encouraged to send in the a-word-a-day. Here are the rules: > > * send in the word definition. > * add an example with English translation if you can. > * More is better, but please be sure that what you wrote is correct so > that people can trust it without needing to double check. > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/