Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from n14a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.28]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ChBjL-0000ug-Ij for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:01:03 -0800 Received: from [66.218.69.2] by n14.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2004 19:00:32 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.29] by mailer2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Dec 2004 19:00:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 67918 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2004 19:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Dec 2004 19:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ratanakiri.reutershealth.com) (65.246.141.37) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Dec 2004 19:00:31 -0000 Received: from skunk.reutershealth.com (ratanakiri [65.246.141.37]) by ratanakiri.reutershealth.com (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id iBMIxxHf017998; Wed, 22 Dec 2004 13:59:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by skunk.reutershealth.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:00:06 -0500 To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20041222190005.GE6612@skunk.reutershealth.com> References: <20041222184225.GN20429@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20041222184225.GN20429@chain.digitalkingdom.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 65.246.141.37 From: John Cowan MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:00:05 -0500 Subject: [lojban] Re: Founders: ja'o and ni'ikri Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 9106 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 1401 Lines: 41 Robin Lee Powell scripsit: > The definition for ja'o mentions "ni'ikri", which is not in > NORALUJV. It seems inherently contradictory to me; what was it > intended to mean? I think it dates back to the days before the krici/jinvi distinction was clearly understood. In any event, the definition of "krici" as believing without evidence/proof is probably too strong: it should be more like believing with or without evidence/proof. -- "Take two turkeys, one goose, four John Cowan cabbages, but no duck, and mix them http://www.ccil.org/~cowan together. After one taste, you'll duck jcowan@reutershealth.com soup the rest of your life." http://www.reutershealth.com --Groucho ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/