From zefram@fysh.org Thu Jan 20 04:57:18 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from fysh.org ([83.170.75.51] helo=bowl.fysh.org ident=mail) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1Crbs1-0000WT-Av for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 04:57:05 -0800 Received: from zefram by bowl.fysh.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Crbry-0007ol-00 for ; Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:57:02 +0000 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:57:02 +0000 From: Zefram To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: as it turned out Message-ID: <20050120125702.GC3649@fysh.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i X-archive-position: 9288 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: zefram@fysh.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list xah lee wrote: > >As we know, it means something like "we found out..." or "we realized", >but not quite just that, since it also connotes something like "the >nature of the world is such that ...". But the phrase "the nature of >the world is such that" is quite hard to find a concrete meaning, since >it seems to me it necessarily calls for some metaphysical stance or >issues. "the nature of the world is such that X" means exactly the same thing as "X". -zefram