From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Jan 31 13:04:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 91195 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2005 21:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Jan 2005 21:04:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jan 2005 21:04:44 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CviiC-0000n2-QS for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:03:56 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cvii0-0000mU-Qw; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:03:44 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.29]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cvihm-0000mE-5Q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:03:30 -0800 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0212.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3B8721C0023A for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:02:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (APuteaux-153-1-52-60.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.138.60]) by mwinf0212.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1033D1C00239 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:02:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20050131210259664.1033D1C00239@mwinf0212.wanadoo.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: <7D7B620D-736A-11D9-AC09-000A95C58224@xahlee.org> References: <41FD5D13.8060109@cox.net> <7D7B620D-736A-11D9-AC09-000A95C58224@xahlee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 22:02:45 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-archive-position: 9390 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jexOm@free.fr X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: jexOm. From: jexOm. Reply-To: jexOm@free.fr Subject: [lojban] Re: [lojban] X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23769 Le 31 janv. 05, à 10:28, xah lee a écrit : > natural languages don't come with a design committee. They 'break' or > evolve and basically nobody cares except a few academic pundits. On this point only... Natural languages are not always that "natural". Actually, Turkish and Hebrew are somewhat artificial languages as they have gone through a major planned revision during the last century. And an "artificial" language like Esperanto (100 years old this year) has become somewhat "natural". So, the boudaries are a bit fuzzy. My 0.00€, Jérôme.