From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Jan 09 19:02:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 24735 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 03:02:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2005 03:02:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 03:02:23 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Cnpow-0007fh-L6 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:02:18 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnpoU-0006uy-4k; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:01:50 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:01:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1Cnpo6-0006eX-Rd for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 19:01:26 -0800 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 19:01:26 -0800 Message-ID: <20050110030126.GO4597@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20050110012429.GN4597@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20050110020135.66826.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050110020135.66826.qmail@web41905.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-archive-position: 9213 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Help with "beak", please. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23605 On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 06:01:35PM -0800, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > What about making a lujvo of "bartu moklu" for snout, and then > > attaching "jgalu" to that? I realized later that "jipno" is better than "bartu". > Doesn't "snout" involve the nose too? Point. > If so, then {nazbi} already contains the idea of protrusion, so > {nazmo'u} could be "x1 is the snout/nose-mouth of x2". Indeed. > beak: the bill of a bird; esp. the bill of a bird of prey adapted > for striking and tearing. > > bill: the jaws of a bird together with their horny covering. > > xedja: x1 is a/the jaw [body-part] of x2 > > So {xedja} by itself could be used for bill/beak if you are > talking about a bird. If it's not a bird you're talking about It is not; it is in fact a non-existant being that happens to be imagined to have a beak similar to a bird. > so that you need to specify more the type of xedja, then maybe > {ja'urxe'a} or {cakyxe'a} or maybe {cpismixe'a}. I think ja'urxe'a is most what I want, since I want focus on the weapon-like-ness of the beak. Thanks. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/