From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Jan 15 12:12:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 77714 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2005 20:12:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m10.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Jan 2005 20:12:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2005 20:12:07 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CpuH7-0002to-3w for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:11:57 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CpuGd-0002tQ-3g; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:11:27 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CpuGQ-0002tE-QU for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:11:14 -0800 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:11:14 -0800 Message-ID: <20050115201114.GB10940@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20050114195516.GW22838@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <537d06d0050115032029bd6ac1@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <537d06d0050115032029bd6ac1@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-archive-position: 9268 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Opinions, please: SA by structure X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23652 On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 12:20:20PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > One question -- what would {mi vecnu do lo cukta sa lo cukta do} > mean? The same as {mi vecnu lo cukta do} ("I'm selling you to the > books, uh, the books to you") or as {mi vecnu do lu cukta do} > ("I'm selling you to the books, uh, to the books for the cost of > yourself")? The latter. > If the latter, how to get the result of the former? Would I have to > erase back to the brivla and go {mi vecnu do lo cukta sa vecnu lo > cukta do}? Correct. You could also (probably; we haven't hashed this out yet) do {mi vecnu do lo cukta sa da sa lo cukta do}, effictively counting back two terms, but I don't actually expect anyone to do this. "da" was used as "any term" there. > (Which would currently mean, apparently, {mi vecnu do lo vecnu lo > cukta do} or "I'm selling you to the books, uh, salesman for the > price of books" with a leftover "do" for x5 of vecnu.) Correct. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/