From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Jan 09 17:25:34 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 52813 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2005 01:25:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Jan 2005 01:25:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2005 01:25:34 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CnoJF-0008UD-SP for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:25:29 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CnoIi-00086J-FM; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:24:56 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CnoIH-0007sG-Iq for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:24:29 -0800 Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:24:29 -0800 Message-ID: <20050110012429.GN4597@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-archive-position: 9211 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Help with "beak", please. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23603 On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 11:04:15AM -0800, Jim Carter wrote: > "jgalu moklu" is tempting, but I think I'd prefer a proper > translation of "snout" as in "projecting mouth". But I wasn't > able to get a good gismu for "projecting". There's kruvi, for "curve" or "bend", and genxu for "hook" or "crook" shaped. There's also ze'o for "outward", which has rafsi "zev". There's also "bartu" which means "exterior". What about making a lujvo of "bartu moklu" for snout, and then attaching "jgalu" to that? Something like: barmo'u == b1=m1 is the exterior mouth / snout / mount organ extending outwards from body b2=m2 ja'urbarmo'u == j1=b1=m1 is the exterior hard mouth / beak extending outwards from body b2=m2=j2 I just noticed calku, but I'm thinking it shouldn't get involved because there's no shell *over* anything. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/