From jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Sat Jan 22 07:24:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 74264 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2005 15:24:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m8.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Jan 2005 15:24:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jan 2005 15:24:13 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CsN7L-0007oj-Bj for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:24:03 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CsN77-0007oF-Sq; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:23:49 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:23:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from web41902.mail.yahoo.com ([66.218.93.153]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CsN6w-0007nn-Sa for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:23:39 -0800 Received: (qmail 45566 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jan 2005 15:23:08 -0000 Message-ID: <20050122152308.45564.qmail@web41902.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.40.201.142] by web41902.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:23:07 PST Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:23:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20050121190549.GA17449@fysh.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 9308 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 From: Jorge "Llambías" Reply-To: jjllambias2000@yahoo.com.ar Subject: [lojban] Re: outer and inner quantifiers on "le" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=142311107 X-Yahoo-Profile: jjllambias2000 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23689 --- Zefram wrote: > Jorge Llambías wrote: > >PA1 fi'u PA2 is PA1 out of every PA2 of the > >referents of "". > > a'unai. Nasty overloading. How does one override that interpretation, > to be able to express a fraction of a referent using {fi'u}? One general way of expressing fractions is with {si'e}: lo si'e be pa is unequivocally a fraction of one of the referents of "". Any convention with fractional quantifiers has its drawbacks. mu'o mi'e xorxes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com