From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jan 06 19:04:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26469 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2005 03:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Jan 2005 03:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Jan 2005 03:04:47 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CmkQW-0003dv-GU for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:04:36 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmkPz-0003dG-IG; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:04:03 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:04:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from phma.hn.org ([216.189.113.165] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CmkPp-0003d5-5i for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 06 Jan 2005 19:03:53 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 353488453; Fri, 7 Jan 2005 03:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Organization: dis Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 22:03:20 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20050106143845.98922.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050106143845.98922.qmail@web41906.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200501062203.20666.phma@phma.hn.org> X-archive-position: 9194 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.hn.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Metric units X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23586 On Thursday 06 January 2005 09:38, Jorge "Llambías" wrote: > Perhaps we could introduce a special symbol to indicate > that what follows is a conventional *written* abbreviation > of something that has to be expanded when read aloud. > So something like "lo /ml 750 botpi" where "/ml" would > always be read as "milylitce be li". Using {ml} by itself > could be confused with the name {ml.}, and some other units > might cause even worse ambiguities. I've thought of using the hyphen for this (le karce cu Mg- li 2). The slash is unsuitable, since it's read as {fi'u} in such abbreviations as km/h (ki'otrefi'ucacra). lo fi'ursnidu could be either a hertz or a becquerel. phma -- S Fa1>+/- !TM Ng--- M-- K H T-- t? AT++ SY Te- SC- FO- D P !Tz E++ L Am I Ha- hc-- FH+++ IP?