Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 10:54:50 -0500
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From: Matt Arnold <mattarn@123.net>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: New file uploaded to lojban
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The publications of LLG have been wonderful and very well-done. But it deserves better desktop publishing and illustration than it has received. I would be very pleased to volunteer my time, talent and software. I've posted a nineteen-page sample PDF to the files section.
I would especially direct the attention of the group to the last example on page 19 {ta [cu] tavla be do be le melbi [ku] [be'o] vecnu} to see the way the diagram tables can nest. I was only beginning to learn Lojban two years ago when I made this document, and it helped my understanding greatly to draw out the diagram.
As you see, selbri cells have a black border, sumti cells have a white border. I gave place marker cmavo a slash through the cell. Question cmavo were given an x. Negation cmavo are white letters on a black cell. Someone with a more sophisticated understanding of the grammer could probably suggest a lot of improvements to the illustration.
.filip.,
I could change the apostrophes, if it's useful to do so. It would take a lot of work but legibility and good typography was what this effort was all about.
-epkat

philip.newton@gmail.com wrote:
>On 25 Feb 2005 14:52:56 -0000, lojban@yahoogroups.com
><lojban@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> This email message is a notification to let you know that
>> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the lojban
>> group.
>>
>>   File        : /lojban guide.pdf
>>   Uploaded by : nemorathwald <mattarn@123.net>
>>   Description : Lojban Reference Grammar, pgs 1-19
>
>Interesting.
>
>For me, the use of "smart" apostrophe for the Lojban apostrophe looks
>a bit strange, though, and would take getting used to; I'm used to
>seeing a straight line (not necessarily vertical) rather than a "9"
>shape.
>
>mu'o mi'e .filip.
>--
>Philip Newton <philip.newton@gmail.com>

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