From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Feb 23 00:19:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 59164 invoked from network); 23 Feb 2005 08:19:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Feb 2005 08:19:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2005 08:19:43 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1D3rie-0005iv-MM for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:18:04 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D3rgv-0005h3-Je; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:16:17 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:16:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D3rgS-0005go-Ke for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:15:49 -0800 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id z35so1170803rne for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:15:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=M9y1B6o5St8gSDlx1S48GZ3CkwHejVwZPo3mVM6/U3A9FCLt3LuEzfOzgn9dXJp2Hrvg+acb/Edb53F2xIxOb84oelOrtbU0ty8/GWP19ecajJ/jqttRqbr8c1Dj/Jgr0anPJos41EwPpOanqnuBFgJW+PU7U+uK6gKgd66Dflw= Received: by 10.38.99.58 with SMTP id w58mr187430rnb; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:15:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.208.61 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:15:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <537d06d0050223001579349f71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:15:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <1109145928.8091.5.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII References: <20050221164116.50682.qmail@web81305.mail.yahoo.com> <1109145928.8091.5.camel@localhost> X-archive-position: 9515 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: philip.newton@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-eGroups-Remote-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-From: Philip Newton From: Philip Newton Reply-To: philip.newton@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: blast from the past X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23882 On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 00:05:28 -0800, Theodore Reed wrote: > I hit google. I found both Lojban and Loglan. I > initially dismissed Lojban because it appeared to be a half-assed fork > from people who decided that they didn't like the way Loglan was being > run That's the impression I also got the first time I came across a mention of those languages :) It took several more years, though, before I was reminded of them and investigated them more closely, but I remember thinking "that looks interesting, but if I decide to get involved with lost languages at some point, it'd probably be better to go with Loglan than with the renegade offshoot Lojban"; it was unclear to me how many supporters/speakers each variant had. mu'o mi'e .filip. -- Philip Newton