From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Mar 18 16:08:03 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DCRVT-0001et-Nt for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:07:55 -0800 Received: from phma.hn.org ([216.189.113.165] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DCRVS-0001ej-9X for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:07:55 -0800 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D42335F13; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 00:07:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Pierre Abbat Organization: dis To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] SE with conjunctions Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:07:11 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200503181907.12189.phma@phma.hn.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9615 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list SE is grammatical with both logical and non-logical conjunctions, but the only usage mentioned in the refgram is {se} with logical conjunctions, of which the only ones it makes a difference with are {u/ju/gi'u/gu'u/gu}. What does {te ju} mean? Does {se} make a difference with any JOI (I think it should with {ce'o}, {fa'u}, and, if I understand it right, {pi'u})? phma -- Maintenant, j'ai besoin d'une loupe pour trouver mes lunettes! -Les Perles de la médecine