From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Wed Mar 30 21:23:55 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DGs9i-0005pz-6J for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:23:46 -0800 Received: from n7a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.41]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DGs9g-0005pE-5P for lojban-in@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:23:46 -0800 Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2005 05:23:10 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.35] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2005 05:23:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: ignat99@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 85222 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 05:23:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Mar 2005 05:23:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.201) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 05:23:08 -0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so449576wra for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:23:08 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ZFkOwdIjOhTeiw+JJPmvVoKyObdyHzav2iRBbSvnSWSrH/LDh/LqrloVYQM1j41qaFdHk190blcVAbNJ08e3FUnbwcHT9V4R1ucOl64gx0oOD0GMMZxbcVykEKAVTwjCopnRKZQczPwz+ZCAqbFQI4K8MrQWJZG1WSv/fnPNWeA= Received: by 10.54.105.8 with SMTP id d8mr386818wrc; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.6.71 with HTTP; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:23:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: To: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz, lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <424B7208.2090707@gulik.co.nz> References: <4c4e58c10503300651201dda8d@mail.gmail.com> <20050331003643.GI14109@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20050331022441.GA5950@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <424B7208.2090707@gulik.co.nz> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.184.201 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: ignat 99 X-Yahoo-Profile: ignat999 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:23:08 +0900 Subject: [lojban] Re: [was: fu'ivla] Russian character sets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 9728 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ignat99@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list coi rodo Thanks for the your message,Michael van der Gulik. This the good information, that is necessary for me. http://www.lojban.org/en/publications/reference_grammar/chapter17.html#s17 But in this document one character of contemporary Russian alphabet is lost (short e, after e). But old characters are described correctly. For each character has semantic value, additionally. The characters group of Russian alphabet form sentences. Russian alphabet can be read as text with the sense. Moreover by several methods. This information, proved, to be lost for not Russian speaking personas. I understood, that, I must use 7 letter (short_e) for presentation of the one lost character in my text, yes ? And the same way for the remaining old lost characters ("short_big_.ius.") ? This is not convenient (3 american words for one character). old lost characters: "Е-йотированное Юс-малый Юс-малый-йотированный Юс-большой Юс-большой-йотированный Кси Пси Фита Ижица" ki'e, ignat > > If you want to quote Cyrillic letters (characters) in Lojban, refer > here: > http://www.lojban.org/en/publications/reference_grammar/chapter17.html#s17. > To quote one Cyrillic character in Lojban, you will need up to 14 > characters!! > > However, it is much simpler to use the Latin character set to write > lojban in. More lojbanists can read what you write if you do that. You > seem to be able to write in it okay :-). > > Mikevdg. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/TzSHvD/SOnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/