From MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Wed Mar 30 07:37:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 24412 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2005 15:37:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2005 15:37:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d03.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.35) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Mar 2005 15:37:14 -0000 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id r.193.3c9f5cc4 (25098) for ; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:33:08 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <193.3c9f5cc4.2f7c20b4@wmconnect.com> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 10:33:08 EST To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_193.3c9f5cc4.2f7c20b4_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 52 X-Originating-IP: 205.188.157.35 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Subject: zo'e X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=137764184 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbaner X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24069 --part1_193.3c9f5cc4.2f7c20b4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/30/2005 9:35:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, opi_lauma" < opi_lauma@yahoo.com via lojban@yahoogroups.com writes: > What is not clear for me is by what speaker need to replace sumti if > it is unknown by speaker and listener want to know what is sumti. For > example if I say: > > Somebody bought our car. > > I means that I do not know who did it. > Not necessarily. That is one of the possible meanings. Another possible meaning is that I do know who it was, but I don't want to say. Maybe it's a secret; maybe I just promised not to tell; maybe it's a surprise; etc. If someone uses "zo'e" in a statement, and you want to know what it stands for, just ask. Since the "zo'e" fills a particular argument slot of the brivla, just fill that slot with "ma". stevo --part1_193.3c9f5cc4.2f7c20b4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 3/30/2005 9:35:15 A= M Eastern Standard Time, opi_lauma" <opi_lauma@yahoo.com via lojban@yaho= ogroups.com writes:


What is not clear for me = is by what speaker need to replace sumti if
it is unknown by speaker and listener want to know what is sumti. For
example if I say:

Somebody bought our car.

I means that I do not know who did it.


Not necessarily.  That is one of the possible meanings.  Anot= her possible meaning is that I do know who it was, but I don't want to say.=  Maybe it's a secret; maybe I just promised not to tell; maybe it's a= surprise; etc.

If someone uses "zo'e" in a statement, and you want to know what it sta= nds for, just ask.  Since the "zo'e" fills a particular argument slot = of the brivla, just fill that slot with "ma".

stevo
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