From ignat99@gmail.com Thu Mar 31 16:45:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ignat99@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 16237 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2005 00:45:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Apr 2005 00:45:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.204) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2005 00:45:38 -0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so749190wra for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:45:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=Ps88M8Gag29qdteRK29AvD9r3FVdFtzZRjTxiKbdHqU5hvJBzi/1e2thsWZ2R8tCz/8qTdwHFQvGA2k68VuerHvcH66tsvk6Mbe9iy+D5L5nKBGcjFdoLp4qbPhKPXlDGLt6y0ojxhsc4YSzWoI4tm57wzwG4JYtnmglqGCVGTQ= Received: by 10.54.105.7 with SMTP id d7mr2216964wrc; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.6.71 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:45:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:45:38 +0900 To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net, lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20050331172521.5258.qmail@web81310.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <20050331172521.5258.qmail@web81310.mail.yahoo.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.184.204 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: ignat 99 Reply-To: ignat 99 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: fu'ivla X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=219030699 X-Yahoo-Profile: ignat999 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24091 coi djo'n. .i coi rodo > It needs to be able to represent all > the sounds of that language, but it would be > wasteful for it to have separate symbols for > sounds that never occur in that language > directly,=20 http://vzh.by.ru/DOC/NIK/01_1.jpg You see many words without the gaps(space) this because the Russian language is used many letters too. IMHO, Grammar of lojban is also weak in comparison with the Russian. But grammar of lojban very developed in comparison with many other artificial languages. Thanks. This is the very good work. > In short, while the point I take you to be making > is an interesting one -- raising perhaps a > different notion of an international language -- > it does not seem to be a practical goal and so > failing to meet it is not to be counted against > Lojban or any other language. Thus, this Lojban is more American language(international language, the 200 years of the history) than others _local_ language (Slavic, Chinese, Devanagari (Hindi), more the 2000 years of the history), yes it is ??? :-))))) Ok, it is necessary to add the passed letter "=A3"(.eobu) into the Lojban Russian alphabet. http://www.lojban.org/en/publications/reference_grammar/chapter17.html#s17 We it actually use every day. This is actually important for 150 000 000 ma= ns. It would be a good thing to correct the error. ki'e ignat