Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:26:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DAniI-00086W-Fw for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:26:22 -0800 Received: from n22a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.51]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DAni5-00085g-DX for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:26:22 -0800 DomainKey-Signature: Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n22.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Mar 2005 11:25:29 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.160] by mailer6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Mar 2005 11:25:29 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: xah@xahlee.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 95989 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 11:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Mar 2005 11:25:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO xahlee.org) (206.130.99.40) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 11:25:27 -0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (c-24-6-93-84.client.comcast.net [24.6.93.84]) (authenticated) by xahlee.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j2EBPRC31955 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 04:25:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: <537d06d0050313073827479c53@mail.gmail.com> References: <537d06d0050313073827479c53@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-Originating-IP: 206.130.99.40 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: xah lee X-Yahoo-Profile: p0lyglut MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 03:25:57 -0800 Subject: [lojban] where to lookup cmavo? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=GB2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9573 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xah@xahlee.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 2062 Lines: 72 what does “noi” or “va” mean? very frequently i need to lookup such grammar words that is the essence of lojban, but finding no resource or ways. The few times over the years i tried the so called lojban dictionary: http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/ and i don't remember once it was helpful. Where or how can a learner of lojban, when encountering such a new grammar words (cmavo), find out its meaning or usage? (the few times i tried the cmavo list. Often fruitless there too. For some reason most of these words are just not there.) Thanks. Xah xah@xahlee.org http://xahlee.org/PageTwo_dir/more.html On Mar 13, 2005, at 7:38 AM, Philip Newton wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 23:40:24 -0800, xah lee wrote: > > le ta cifnu cu sipna = that baby is sleeping = 那婴兒在睢 {le ta cifnu} is "the baby associated with that" (same as {le cifnu pe ta}). I think you want either {ta noi cifnu} or {le va cifnu}. > how to say "the babe is suckling from her mom?" > (那婴儿在吃他妈的奶) I'd try {le cifnu cu pinxe lo ladru lo tatru be lo mamta be cy.}. Or maybe with {lo ladru be lo tatru...} instead of {lo ladru lo tatru...}; I'm not sure which is better. (One puts "its mothers breast" into the x2 of {ladru} -- the origin of the milk --, the other into the x3 of {pinxe} -- the source of the drinking.) mu'o mi'e .filip. -- Philip Newton ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/EA3HyD/3MnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/