From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Mar 12 09:56:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 90451 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2005 17:56:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 12 Mar 2005 17:56:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Mar 2005 17:56:35 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DAAqn-0006EB-RE for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:56:33 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DAApX-0006DR-1S; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:55:18 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:55:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DAApJ-0006D6-Tt for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:55:01 -0800 Received: from web81301.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.76]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DAApG-0006Cn-00 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:55:01 -0800 Message-ID: <20050312175427.15089.qmail@web81301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.69.48.37] by web81301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:54:27 PST Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 09:54:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 9568 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban Masters Thesis Project X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23931 This sounds like an interesting project and I am glad you think that Lojban may help. But you should note early on that Lojban gismu are not meant to be semantic primes but rather higher nodes in a web that will be more useful for forming compounds (primes make for very long compounds -- check out AUI). Notice, by way of making the point, the current discussion about {pilka} and {skapi}, which probably share some primes and yet are clearly different and are both gismu. Taking gismu as fixed points, your web will have to go down as well as up to fit other concepts in, if that is the overall scheme you are following (I don't keep up, so my ideas are very 1970's -- roughly old stone age, I suspect). --- Brandon Wirick wrote: > coi rodo > > My name is Brandon Wirick, and I discovered > Lojban a few weeks ago. I > had been wanting to find or create a logical > language for about ten > years, so I natually think Lojban is just about > the best thing ever. I > intend to become fluent. > > I am finishing up my masters at California > Polytechnic State University, > and since I have found Lojban, I decided that I > would like to > incorporate it into the work I am doing for my > thesis. I am working with > the XML-based ontology description language > OWL, which is primarily used > to describe concepts and their relationships on > the web. As far as I can > tell, no one has yet created an ontology for > Lojban terms, so I would > like to create one and promote it as a standard > for concept > representation on the web. Gismu and lujvo > would provide a rich base for > the ontology, but users everywhere could extend > it with words from any > language. This could not only help the > Lojbangirz gain some recognition, > but the Semantic Web effort as well. > > I'm looking for people who would be able to > help me get this project off > the ground. I'm good with XML and OWL, but not > familiar with the > intricacies of Lojban. I have a working > prototype ontology that I can > demonstrate to anyone who is interested. > > ki'e > > Brandon Wirick > >