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Subject: [lojban] Re: usage of to...toi [was: fu'ivla]
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:23:15 +0100, Evgeny Sklyanin <eks2005@gmail.com> wrote:
> Theodore Reed wrote:
> >ganai do djica lo nu do pilno loi rusko lerfu to .e lo drata toi gi do kakne
> 
> jbofi'e does not accept the parenthesized phrase {to .e lo drata toi}.
> If we delete {.e} then {to lo drata toi} becomes acceptable. It seems
> that the parenthesized phrase has to be a grammatically correct
> sentence. Is there any way to include the conjunction {.e} as the
> author intended?
> 
> mi'e .evgenis.

{ji'a} seems to work:

ga nai do djica lo nu pilno loi lerfu be lo rusko to ji'a lo drata toi
gi do kakne

It doesn't have to be a *sentence*, but it has to be correct in
isolation. Eks require sumti on both sides.

mu'o mi'e .adam.