From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Mar 30 19:44:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 20187 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 03:44:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m18.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Mar 2005 03:44:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 03:44:51 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DGqbz-0003g0-CG for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:44:51 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DGqbR-0003ff-Dk; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:44:20 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DGqbG-0003fV-E7 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:44:06 -0800 Received: from genamics.blastula.net ([205.214.85.184]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.44) id 1DGqbD-0003fF-L1 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:44:06 -0800 Received: from [203.184.19.168] (helo=gulik.co.nz) by genamics.blastula.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1DGqb7-0003ds-81 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:43:58 +1200 Message-ID: <424B7208.2090707@gulik.co.nz> Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:44:08 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040216 Debian/1.6.x.1-10 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4c4e58c10503300651201dda8d@mail.gmail.com> <20050331003643.GI14109@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20050331022441.GA5950@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - genamics.blastula.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lojban.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - gulik.co.nz X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9727 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: Michael van der Gulik From: Michael van der Gulik Reply-To: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz Subject: [lojban] Re: [was: fu'ivla] Russian character sets X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24083 ignat 99 wrote: >coi rodo > >Yes certainly. >But Old Russian alphabet has 44 letters and new has 33. >But in the American alphabet only 24 letters. It is still less in >lojban. It means one Russian letter necessary to transfer by several >American. But more rational it would be make vice versa. As the base >to take the Russian alphabet, but not American alphabet. > >But now, for the transfer of one letter in lojban, I must use 4-5 letters? > > Hi Ignat. It is not called the "American alphabet" but the "Latin" or "Roman" alphabet, and it has 26 letters (or it did last time I counted :-P). It is used by many countries around the world, and there's nothing particularly American about it. If you want to quote Cyrillic letters (characters) in Lojban, refer here: http://www.lojban.org/en/publications/reference_grammar/chapter17.html#s17. To quote one Cyrillic character in Lojban, you will need up to 14 characters!! However, it is much simpler to use the Latin character set to write lojban in. More lojbanists can read what you write if you do that. You seem to be able to write in it okay :-). Mikevdg.