From ignat99@gmail.com Thu Mar 31 08:13:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ignat99@gmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69888 invoked from network); 31 Mar 2005 16:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 31 Mar 2005 16:13:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.193) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2005 16:13:37 -0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so597995wra for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:13:36 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=jhPVdKbqynsABLKzjWGyf7+y1NXd88gAeXfzwofsRlRmetsxod7B+eok5m+fjrCyL8AfMNi9PZ5gCKjfjyYIUyCg1cRzhyXgU3wWBZXhXBYO7zDFbBPjz+8vsfcPSNB3M6eIcSY9nMEQP6tI6kjKrsCx9rAtR0lLPzwmJ4SeP8o= Received: by 10.54.45.12 with SMTP id s12mr1857395wrs; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:13:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.6.71 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:13:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2005 01:13:33 +0900 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <4c4e58c10503300651201dda8d@mail.gmail.com> <20050331003643.GI14109@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <20050331022441.GA5950@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <12d58c1605033107085b219813@mail.gmail.com> X-Originating-IP: 64.233.184.193 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: ignat 99 Reply-To: ignat 99 Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: fu'ivla X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=219030699 X-Yahoo-Profile: ignat999 X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24089 coi rodo Etruscans <-> eto_rus_(lo rusko ku) <-> rysich (name of old rus) ch <-> (ch .tcriyviys. bu tcys. bu) This letter and sound is absent in Lojban Take the good alphabet: http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/DBLM/olcourse/sanskrit/s-alpha-1.htm or http://www.lojban.org/en/publications/reference_grammar/chapter17.html#s17 + old letterals :-)) ki'e ignat On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:08:10 -0500, Adam COOPER wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 12:01:46 +0900, ignat 99 wrote: > > coi rodo > > But Old Russian alphabet has 44 letters and new has 33. > > But in the American alphabet only 24 letters. It is still less in > > lojban. It means one Russian letter necessary to transfer by several > > American. But more rational it would be make vice versa. As the base > > to take the Russian alphabet, but not American alphabet. > > > > But now, for the transfer of one letter in lojban, I must use 4-5 letters? > > AFAIK The focus of the Loglan/Lojban project was primarily meaning: > one ought to be able to express any concept in Lojban. Phonologically, > it makes sense to *minimize* the number of phonemes in the language, > in order to maximize pronounceability of the language for all people. > > If you want to translate an Old Russian text for international > understanding, Lojban is a good choice. If you want to *transliterate* > an Old Russian text for international pronunciation, a good bet is > IPA. > > By the way, Evgeny is right. It's not the American alphabet. The > Americans got it from the British, who got it from the Romans, who got > it from the Etruscans, who got it (I think) from the Phoenicians in > about 600 BC or so. Sorry -- BCE. > > mu'o mi'e .adam. > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >