From ben@goertzel.org Fri Mar 25 10:03:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: ben@goertzel.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 39393 invoked from network); 25 Mar 2005 18:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 25 Mar 2005 18:03:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intelligenesiscorp.com) (208.234.8.229) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Mar 2005 18:03:55 -0000 Received: from zombiethustra (pcp06586041pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net [69.140.24.121]) by intelligenesiscorp.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j2PI3qGj025966; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:03:53 -0500 To: "Aleksej R. Serdyukov" , Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:04:00 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0376_01C5313B.1C9845A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <1349197024.20050325185654@yandex.ru> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Originating-IP: 208.234.8.229 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: "Ben Goertzel" Subject: RE: [lojban] tanru X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1278257 X-Yahoo-Profile: bgoertzel X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24002 ------=_NextPart_000_0376_01C5313B.1C9845A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, The loquacious beginner will try his unsteady hand at answering a question again ;-) Lojban dictionary says: " school 4. ckule (kul cu'e): x1 is |/institute/academy at x2 teaching subject(s) x3 to audience/community x4 operated by x5 [also college, university] " So according to my limited knowledge, a nice, clear phrasing would be ti [cu] ckule fi le cmalu nanla But your phrasing in terms of a tanru is also correct, though more ambiguous as the tanru "cmalu nanla ckule" has a lot of possible interpretations On the other hand, to say This-thing is-small in-dimension-"boy" as-compared-with-standard "school" you could say ti cmalu le nanla le ckule Here, the English-article-like cmavo "le" marks nanla and ckule as sumti rather than components of a tanru -- Ben G -----Original Message----- From: Aleksej R. Serdyukov [mailto:deletesoftware@yandex.ru] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 10:57 AM To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: [lojban] tanru coi ro do (I am ill now, so excuse me if I write some gibberish or act stupid) "ti [cu] cmalu nanla ckule [vau] This is-a small- boys school. This is a school for small boys." How do I know that this is not: This-thing is-small in-dimension-"boy" as-compared-with-standard "school" , e.g., "Boy of this thing is small by standard "school"" ? -- To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------=_NextPart_000_0376_01C5313B.1C9845A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Hi,
 
The=20 loquacious beginner will try his unsteady hand at answering a question agai= n=20 ;-)
 
Lojban=20 dictionary says:
 
"
school 4. ckule (kul cu'e): x1 is=20 |/institute/academy at x2 teaching subject(s) x3 to audience/community x4=20 operated by x5 [also college, university] 
"
 
So according to my limited knowledge,&= nbsp;a=20 nice, clear phrasing would be
 
ti=20 [cu] ckule fi le cmalu nanla
 
But=20 your phrasing in terms of a tanru is also correct, though more ambiguous as= the=20 tanru "cmalu nanla ckule" has a lot of possible=20 interpretations
 
On the=20 other hand, to say
 
This-thing= is-small=20 in-dimension-"boy" as-compared-with-standard
"school"
 
you=20 could say
 
ti cmalu l= e nanla=20 le ckule
 
Here, the= =20 English-article-like cmavo "le" marks nanla and ckule as sumti rather than= =20 components of a tanru
 
-- Ben=20 G
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Aleksej R. Serdyukov= =20 [mailto:deletesoftware@yandex.ru]
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 = 10:57=20 AM
To: lojban@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [lojban]=20 tanru

coi ro do

(I am ill now, so excuse m= e if=20 I write some gibberish or act stupid)

"ti    = =20 [cu]    cmalu   nanla   ckule &nb= sp;=20 [vau]
This          =  =20 is-a small-     boys    school.
Thi= s is=20 a school for small boys."

How do I know that this is not:
This-= thing=20 is-small in-dimension-"boy" as-compared-with-standard
"school"
, e.= g.,=20 "Boy of this thing is small by standard=20 "school""
?


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