From lojban-out@lojban.org Sun Mar 27 12:08:53 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 5396 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2005 20:08:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Mar 2005 20:08:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2005 20:08:52 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DFe43-0000nJ-Ny for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:08:51 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DFe3V-0000mx-Rz; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:08:20 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DFe3K-0000ma-5z for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:08:06 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DFe3K-0000mT-3o for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:08:06 -0800 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 12:08:06 -0800 Message-ID: <20050327200806.GX10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <20050326194416.60028.qmail@web60502.mail.yahoo.com> <537d06d005032705071496f143@mail.gmail.com> <20050327180029.GW10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4246F819.6080209@lojban.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4246F819.6080209@lojban.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-archive-position: 9680 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: New to Lojban and a question X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24037 On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 01:14:49PM -0500, Robert LeChevalier wrote: > > Robin Lee Powell wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 03:07:23PM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > > > >>On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 11:44:16 -0800 (PST), Ryan Gray > >> wrote: > >> > >>>I would think that a logical language such as Lojban would have > >>>more precise words for these ideas. > >> > >>I'm reminded of the Lojban proverb, "The price of infinite > >>precision is infinite verbosity". > > > > > > lo nu cusku se kai lo cimni ka satci cu se sarcu lo nu cusku > > ci'i da > > > > Unfortunately, satci is (IMO) Wholly unsatisfying for this, and > > most other, uses of the English word "precision". I've yet to > > come up with anything I like much better, though. > > satci mapti pei A bit better. It's the x2 of satci that bothers me. > There is another sense of precise which may be captured in English > with the word "narrow" or "focused" or perhaps "exclusive". > (Exclusion of alternative meanings is what increased verbosity in > Lojban provides, in theory). I am led again to think that we may > need a gismu for the "exclusive" sense of "only" that might apply > here. But far be it from me to propose new gismu %^) I think it's quite a nice idea, actually. > perhaps "narrow in dimension [exactness of] meaning" I'll ponder. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/