From popx@j-paine.org Mon Mar 14 08:14:33 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: popx@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 69973 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2005 16:14:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m11.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 14 Mar 2005 16:14:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sphinx.mythic-beasts.com) (212.69.37.6) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2005 16:14:32 -0000 Received: from popx (helo=localhost) by sphinx.mythic-beasts.com with local-esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DAsD9-0006l1-Js for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:14:31 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:14:31 +0000 (GMT) X-X-Sender: popx@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: <20050312175427.15089.qmail@web81301.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <20050312175427.15089.qmail@web81301.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: Jocelyn Paine X-Originating-IP: 212.69.37.6 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Jocelyn Paine Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Lojban Masters Thesis Project X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=162270697 X-Yahoo-Profile: jocelynpaine X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23941 I've come across some meaning representations built around semantic primes, but not AUI. What is it? Would it be the a-priori language described at http://home.pacifier.com/~patten/ ? Cheers, Jocelyn Paine http://www.j-paine.org +44 (0)7768 534 091 On Sat, 12 Mar 2005, John E Clifford wrote: > This sounds like an interesting project and I am > glad you think that Lojban may help. But you > should note early on that Lojban gismu are not > meant to be semantic primes but rather higher > nodes in a web that will be more useful for > forming compounds (primes make for very long > compounds -- check out AUI). Notice, by way of > making the point, the current discussion about > {pilka} and {skapi}, which probably share some > primes and yet are clearly different and are both > gismu. Taking gismu as fixed points, your web > will have to go down as well as up to fit other > concepts in, if that is the overall scheme you > are following (I don't keep up, so my ideas are > very 1970's -- roughly old stone age, I suspect). > > --- Brandon Wirick wrote: > > coi rodo > > > > My name is Brandon Wirick, and I discovered > > Lojban a few weeks ago. I > > had been wanting to find or create a logical > > language for about ten > > years, so I natually think Lojban is just about > > the best thing ever. I > > intend to become fluent. > > > > I am finishing up my masters at California > > Polytechnic State University, > > and since I have found Lojban, I decided that I > > would like to > > incorporate it into the work I am doing for my > > thesis. I am working with > > the XML-based ontology description language > > OWL, which is primarily used > > to describe concepts and their relationships on > > the web. As far as I can > > tell, no one has yet created an ontology for > > Lojban terms, so I would > > like to create one and promote it as a standard > > for concept > > representation on the web. Gismu and lujvo > > would provide a rich base for > > the ontology, but users everywhere could extend > > it with words from any > > language. This could not only help the > > Lojbangirz gain some recognition, > > but the Semantic Web effort as well. > > > > I'm looking for people who would be able to > > help me get this project off > > the ground. I'm good with XML and OWL, but not > > familiar with the > > intricacies of Lojban. I have a working > > prototype ontology that I can > > demonstrate to anyone who is interested. > > > > ki'e > > > > Brandon Wirick > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > [rand=368669731] > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Groups Links > * To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ > > * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > >