From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Mar 17 16:08:35 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49582 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2005 00:08:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 18 Mar 2005 00:08:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lakermmtao09.cox.net) (68.230.240.30) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2005 00:08:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (really [24.250.99.39]) by lakermmtao09.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050318000833.BVQD28448.lakermmtao09.cox.net@[127.0.0.1]>; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:08:33 -0500 Message-ID: <423A1B81.4020301@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 19:06:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <20050317234542.GC26000@chain.digitalkingdom.org> In-Reply-To: <20050317234542.GC26000@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 68.230.240.30 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Robert LeChevalier Subject: Re: [lojban] [Archivist] Mathematical gismu. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=1120595 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojbab X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 23958 Robin Lee Powell wrote: > (I seem to be doing this a lot lately; see what writing in Lojban > does to you?) > > There are non-agentive (i.e. mathematical) gismu for plus (sumji) and > multiply (pilji), but not for minus or divide, that I can find. > > IIRC there are agentive versions of all four. > > Is there any paritcular reason for this, or is it just more upside > down gismu syndrome? It seemed easy enough to make lujvo for the two inverse operations, either something like reverse-add, reverse-multiply, or in a pinch mekso-divide, mekso-remove (remembering that originally, we weren't concerned about semantically derived place structure). lojbab