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On Apr 4, 2005 7:59 AM, opi_lauma <opi_lauma@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 9.10) la tam. [cu] melbi tavla la meris.
>    Tom beautifully-talks to Mary.
>    Tom is a beautiful-talker to Mary.
> 

> "beautiful talker" can also mean that he is a talker and he is
> beautiful but he is beautiful not as talker, he just have a nice face,
> for example. Can this second meaning of the second sentence be a one
> of the possible meanings of the original lojban sentence?

Yes, tanru are vague by nature. When you need to be more
precise, there are ways to do so. For example:

  lo nu la tam tavla la meris cu melbi
  Tom's talking to Mary is beautiful.

  la tam melbi gi'e tavla la meris
  Tom is beautiful and talks to Mary.

mu'o mi'e xorxes