From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 05 04:48:19 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 05 Apr 2005 04:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DImXR-0000K4-AL for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 04:48:09 -0700 Received: from n4a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.38]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DImXF-0000Ib-70 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 05 Apr 2005 04:48:09 -0700 Received: from [66.218.66.58] by n4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2005 11:47:14 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.30] by mailer7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2005 11:47:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 17651 invoked from network); 5 Apr 2005 11:47:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 Apr 2005 11:47:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.46) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Apr 2005 11:47:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: Received: from [66.218.69.6] by n17.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2005 11:47:11 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.86] by mailer6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Apr 2005 11:47:11 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.46 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 141.2.216.130 From: "opi_lauma" X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 11:47:09 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: tanru Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9765 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list > > From my point of view it would be better to > > postulate that (for example): > > > > "sumti1 selbri2 selbri1 sumti2" = "lo nu sumti1 selbri1 sumti2 cu > > selbri2" > > It is > > "la tam. melbi tavla la meris" = "lo nu la tam tavla la meris cu > > melbi". > > tanru are the simplest way to modify predicates, so the idea > is to make them usable with many different types of > modification. If we restrict it to one type, then we can't use > it for other common types, such as: > > ta blabi xirma > That's a white horse. > > That's unlikely to be interpreted as {lo nu ta xirma cu blabi}. Why not? If I say {lo nu la tam tavla la meris} I see the following picture "Two persons, Tom and Marry, and the first person tells something to the second person", then I use this picture as a sumti. In the same way, if I say {lo nu ta xirma} I have in mind picture of horse, and then this picture can be used as sumti in a sentence, to say, for example, that it (sumti) is white. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/TzSHvD/SOnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/